This blog is devoted to discussing the pursuit of eternal life.
Discussion and participation by readers is desired,
but contributions should correlate to the book,
The Race Set Before Us: A Biblical Theology
of Perseverance & Assurance

Thomas R. Schreiner
& Ardel B. Caneday

Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Invitation to Participate--Pose Question; Post Comments

Now that I have launched this new blog but while I tend to a few off-line matters as I transition into the freedom of the summer months, I invite readers to post comments and questions.

  • Have you read The Race Set Before Us?

  • What questions have you been wanting to ask, if you had access to one of the two authors?

  • Have you done some source or redaction criticism on the book?

  • Have you figured out who wrote which chapters (not that I will necessarily tell anyone)?

  • Was there any particular element of the book that you would have liked to have seen differently?

  • What was the greatest weakness of the book?

  • What was the greatest strength of the book?

  • What questions would you like to ask?


Timotheos said...

Shall I set you up a bit? Two areas that I am still working through in regard to TRSBU are:
1. 1 Cor 3
2. A biblical view of rewards (Randy Alcorn style).

Any chance you could take up either of these topics for a blog essay?

Jonathan Foster said...

I think you wrote a majority of the book. Many of the chapters bear your verbose stylings. One question I have is how does union with Christ relate to the warnings in Scripture? Is it possible to have union with Christ in some sense and yet apostasize? I don't think so. Does the vine in John 15 have the same sense as union?

David McKay said...

Thank you for making the site easier to read, Ardel.

abcaneday said...


Thanks for your suggestion about the font size. You were right. The font was too small. I changed the color, too, which makes it easier to read.

abcaneday said...


I will respond to your question with a blog entry, forthcoming.

You are correct that I wrote the larger amount of the book (60%). So I've got a verbose styling, hey? We did work hard at bringing all portions into as even a styling as we could, given time limitations, etc. Nevertheless, I think you are right that our former students can readily identify the sources of some portions.

abcaneday said...


You set me up well. Don't you?

You have raised one of the leading questions that we have received. I will address 1 Corinthians 3 sometime. I will also address the notion of non-salvific "rewards." These are two issues that we had to cut out of the book. It got too large anyway.

Thanks for your questions. I will address them in due time.

Nick Nowalk said...

The relationship between justification by faith alone (especially how the death and resurrection of Christ is the sole objective ground of our standing with God) and a future final judgment according to works. I know the already-not yet is huge here, but how it actually works is obviously a major issue today, and most scholars seem to shy away from explaining how the two fit together for the biblical writers.

abcaneday said...


Thank you for the issue you raised. Indeed, the relationship between justification already and justification not yet is a major issue that needs attention. This is one of the prominent issues I intend to address in my upcoming project, including on this blog.

You're right. So few scholars are willing to address the issue. Many who do, do not do it well, in my estimation.

ofthalmos said...

Dr. Caneday,
As I discuss this topic with friends at seminary, I always get stuck with the question, “so what if someone lives a godly life, but sins right before he dies?” The difference from the example you gave in your last post is that my peers wouldn’t go to such an extreme. What if someone commits one intentional sin and then is somehow killed before there is any attitude of repentance. The reason I find this question so troubling is because I have committed sins in my life that have led to a hardening; thankfully, God rescued me from myself. However, what if I would have died in that hardening? Perhaps God’s sovereignty in the timing of one’s death comes into play here?


charleshalton said...

With respect to your source critical question: I believe that You (AK) and your co-author (TS) both drew from a common oral tradition (O) and written notes (WN). After you compiled your text from these two sources, and your own innovations and insertions, the text was then editied around the time shortly after your return from the SBL conference. O is clearly the oldest layer of the text followed by WN. AK, known from his particular writing style and word choices is slightly more recent than TS. Some will debate the exact time of final redaction to before the SBL conference, but this does not take into consideration various perspectives that arose out of the SBL experience. Futhermore, the text appeals to a post-SBL audience.